Jasper Tizzy and What Lies Beneath
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I just want to preface this post by saying that I did not have any money tied up with Jasper Tizzy, The Bank, or anything else that he was connected to. I met him in a casino, one day and we started talking about web sites and hosting. He approached me as if he wanted me to build a site (or two) for him, and after discussing rates he said that he would have to talk to his partner (or something like that), and get back to me. At the time, I thought that we were discussing a web site for the SLEC. I approached him one or two more times, after that, concerning the web site that we talked about, and didn’t get a definitive answer, either time, so I stopped asking about it. Little did I know… and I suppose, little did anybody know…
For the past few hours, I’ve been looking into Jasper Tizzy’s history. What started as a simple search for some small piece of information turned into hours of discovery and overturned lies.What started me down the rabbit hole was the discovery of Jasper Tizzy’s RL name on a cached page on Google. Some people already knew his RL name because it had been posted, and at least one other person fell down the same hole that I did. When he discovered it, he posted what he found on the forums at SL Exchange. After 8 pages of arguing other people and rebuttals from Jasper, the original posts had been edited by the author in an effort to keep himself from being banned in the forums. I only found this forum thread after I was already so far down in the hole that I couldn’t see light.What I discovered, first is that there were “many” accusations of Jasper Tizzy (I’ll refer to him, here with his SL name) being a spammer. Though Jasper defended the accusations on the slexchange forum by saying that he owns his own servers and rents space to hosting companies, I found out otherwise.
The past was pretty well documented here and here, and there even seems to be “some” connection to Eddy Marin who (in 2003) was called “the world spam king”, thought to be responsible for about 200-million to 250-million spams a day (again, in 2003).
Jasper defends himself in the slexchange forum in this post by acknowledging that Eddie Marrin (spelled differently on different sites) is a spammer. He also says that Eddie had servers in his datacenter and that “Big spammers and heavy usage porn operators” pay him a lot of USD every month to put servers in his datacaenter.
He goes on to say, in the same post, “So….. Will Linden Bank be a scam? With over 600,000 USD we take in at the datacenter, I dont think you will ever see a Linden Bank customer have a probelm.” From what’s happened over the past week, we can see that his prediction was wrong.
He continues, “Now I am in SL, like the internet was in 1995. I was a success then, and will be a success in SL too. Im not going anywhere anytime soon.”
Since the post was made on the forum on April 28, 2007, it makes me wonder what his definition of “anytime soon” is. Four months must be longer than what he meant, though.
Another thing he throws in for the pure purpose of name-dropping is that he hosted Audionet which became Broadcast.com (founded by Mark Cuban and Todd Wagner). At the time it became Broadcast.com, in September 1995, time they moved to a 30,000 square-foot facility (no need for an outsourced datacenter) in Dallas, TX. Before that, the one-page site was hosted by ccnet.com, based in Walnut Creek, CA. In 1999, Broadcast.com was acquired by Yahoo! for $5.7 billion. Jasper Tizzy was well out of the picture before that happened, if he even had any connection in the first place.
At this point, in case you haven’t heard, I’ll point you to a post from Sept, 17, 2007 (a couple days ago) where PatrickJ Ah tries to clear up some rumors and make sense of what’s happened over the past week. He says that in his opinion, “Jasper is gone from SL and I seriously doubt that he will ever return as Jasper.”
Tobia Forcella, who runs VSTEX (the exchange where Jasper’s companies were listed) added something that I found “strange” at the end of the notice, saying “I had only an IM from Jasper on 13 sept saying: “Hello - I have sold my business to PatrickJ Ah - please move all of my shares in all of my companies to him - ty”.”
Since it’s quoted from “hello” to “ty”, I’m assuming that this was the complete message, and that nothing else was said. Why, on Sept, 14th, did Tobia post this message saying that Jasper is “leaving Second Life and is selling out his business”. Supposedly, the IM that Tobia received from Jasper didn’t say anything about leaving SL. What makes it even more strange is the fact that nothing was actually sold to PatrickJ Ah.
As I continued down the rabbit hole, I only found about 92 domain names registered as being hosted on Jasper Tizzy’s servers. Most of the web sites that are set up on these domains are registered with the exact same information. There are a few that aren’t, which may be legitimate “customer’s sites, though not very many, at all.
The web sites that are registered with the same information are all either very poorly designed, or most of the links don’t work. Many of them contain the default template “Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet” text, and usually all of the links don’t work. In the three servers that I looked most of the registration information listed Florida as the registrant’s address, with a few from Indiana.
On the server that hosts “thelindenbank.com” there is another domain that is listed as being registered to an address in Nevada. Interestingly, that domain has a picture of the exact same credit card that was used to announce the news that Atlas Venture Capital acquires “The Bank”, where the aquisition of World Wide Connect was also announced.
Of course, if somebody wanted to explain that away, they could. They could also explain that some people own many different domains… no big deal. I own plently, myself (15 or so).
The problem comes when all of the information is put together, though. Jasper says that he made enough money running datacenters to retire at 40 years old, but claiming “with over $600,000 we take in at the datacenter, I don’t think” you’ll see a problem, he doesn’t sound “retired”. He says that his name is on “maybe over 250,000″ domains (tech contact, I can understand, but not listed as the registrant, which is all I saw). In 1998 he “sold a search engine” and some software to Lycos for a bundle of cash. This post says that he still has a datacenter on Commercial Blvd.
One big question: Why is he hosting sites with Qwest, in Chicago (65.118.74.213) and with iDAQ Ltd., in Great Brittan (217.168.144.93) when he could easily use “his own” datacenter?
Why was he hesitant to give his RL info. It seems that now we know. From now on, I’ll be extra wary of people that say things like, “But I dont need money, and wont scam the SL bank to get a few bux for sure. I think since I was a leader int he internet, that Im going to be a leader in SL too.. Nothing in my past im scared of, nobody looking to sue me for anything LOL”
… as he walks away, laughing.
ADDED: Now (Sept. 22, 2007) it looks like some of the web sites have been taken down, including the one that looked like the “main hub” (because most of the registrant information for the other domains is using the name “Private Web Communities, Inc”) for the others, called Private Web Communities. It was there just a couple days ago. Why are you pulling your sites down, Frank? Are you quitting that game, too?
September 19th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Hi, i don’t know why you found strange my post.
Yes, this is the full and the only IM received from Jasper. After it, i received and IM from patrikJ saying that he received an amail from Jasper “about his leaving SL”. So i halted the companies and wrote the post on my website.
Sorry for my english,
Tobia Forcella
Vstex Company CEO
September 19th, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Well, the reason why I find it strange is that you never said anything about that until now. On the notice posted on Sept. 17th you said “In the meantime, i found out that KFM mall had been sold, so I stopped trading for Tizzy’s companies immediately; I tried to contact him and Teanna without success.”
Now, you’re saying “After [the IM from Jasper], i received an IM from patrikJ saying that he received an amail from Jasper “about his leaving SL”. So i halted the companies and wrote the post on my website.”
I can understand it, if “both” things happened, but what this makes me wonder, more and more, is what else do you know? Why not tell people “everything”, instead of just giving out bits and pieces, here and there?
I know that you’re busy, but there’s supposedly 15 people working for your company. I’m sure that more than 5 minutes can be spent on more of an explanation than just a little “one-liner”, especially when there’s more to what’s going on.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:42 am
Hi Mr Strange,
only now i realized that you are the same man that sent me the IM i posted on my website, thanks for it!
Is all true what i said here and on the vstex website:
3 things happens on 13 sept, when i wasn’t at home:
1) jasper sent me the IM you know
2) another man sent me an IM saying KFM land was sold.
3) patrikj sent the IM you know
So, when i was back home on 14 september, i halted the companies and start calling Jasper, Teanna Nomura and Patrikj; and i said on the website what i knew: jasper is leaving SL (said by Patrikj) and is selling the companies (said by jasper and confirmed by the IM related to KFM). I didn’t said the name of Patrikj here because i wanted to talk first to him.
Probably is the language that can’t let me explain well.
And no Mr Strange, we aren’t 15 people involved in the exchange now; i’m working on the community system on the website, Astolfo Forcella is building the Vstex Auditorium on our island, Samantha Goldflake is helping me with texts for the website and Pasha Boucher is our financial expert that is driving us in our work.
ps: i taked about 40 minutes to write this post in a very bad english… this is another reason about my short posts… but we are organizing for it
Tobia Forcella
Vstex Company CEO
http://www.vstex.net
September 20th, 2007 at 1:39 am
Thank you for explaining that, Tobia. From the way the news come out originally, it just wasn’t adding up. When you told us about the IM from Jasper on Sept. 13, it made no mention that he was “leaving SL”, is all. It makes more sense, now.
I got the information about 15 people working for your company, directly from Jaspers mouth on this video. Sorry if I was wrong about that. For “some” reason, I just took that at face value, too.
In my opinion, you’re doing very good with the English (a lot better that I could ever do with Italian, anyway).
September 20th, 2007 at 5:10 am
Some days ago I was put in charge of dealing with communication and public relations. Previously I was not a Vstex employee.
Currently I’m helping out with the Vstex website English translation for the new areas being built and the new texts. At a later stage I’ll run after old translations suffering from mispellings and plain errors.
We’re getting there and we’ll be working to ensure that proper, timely communication will reach everyone interested in us.
Samantha Goldflake
Vstex Communications and Public Relations Dept.
http://www.vstex.net
September 21st, 2007 at 8:34 am
I did decide to quit this game, and i didnt run off with it. I gave all my stocks to Patrickj not just CGI. Read what i said to tobia. Pat has now said he only wants CGI LOL that is where the assets are.
There was money in the bank Pat took it, the land from bank invested money was in cgi groups as CGI was the rental / property management company / group
As tobia had told you the 100% truth and you had to push for more information that wasnt said. Maybe you need to look deeper into the real story and not to make up stuff that may not be correct.
Quest is a tier 1 backbone provider. We connect to them in Tampa Florida not chicago. Maybe the ip block is registered in chicago, but routers on the backbone can move ip blocks anywhere in the ASN.
The facts are this is a game. I did make many people money over the past 6 months, never was my intentions to see anyone loose anything. I did the best I could as one guy can. I gave what was left to patrick yes 220,000 + sqm land and some cash. Not alot, but not zero maybe 2 million L$ at the low land rates - he could sell it off and pay back some of the investors, or keep it all going.
If i didnt say hell with this GAME and turn it off, I would have to run with what was left to make the best of it all.
Maybe if…Land was still up in value and we can continue to rent property for the same rates, things would have been great. But bad land rates, investors selling off avc and cgi cheap, were all part of the failure of this.
I am out of this game and Patrick will do what he feels is right.
To pick on me for a failure and what I feel was a safe hand off of remaining assets to Patrick, is not cool. Try to be in my shoes and see how far you would have gone. I lasted past many SL issues and managed to pay everyone and keep building. This started as a fun game to play, and became a fulltime job, and now the hacklers want to pick on me for this LOL
Its a game read sl TOS money has no value, it is a limited usage you have to use the fictional money.
September 21st, 2007 at 8:41 am
Of course you lie…..It’s all my money i have in the world in the bank….690 000 L$…I want it back…..Patrick told me he had nothing to do with THE BANK…………
I need my money, it’s all for me…. you stole all !!
September 21st, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Jasper, I tried to contact you a lot of times now. I had around 2,200,000 L$ in the bank and its all gone now. After all we talked about trust and business … I just can’t believe you did that without just leaving a simple note to me. If you say that you have been honest, then you can look me in the eyes or just talk or mail me so that we can look for a solution. You know how to reach me. Duckman Sands
September 21st, 2007 at 9:18 pm
“with over $600,000 we take in at the datacenter, I don’t think” you’ll see a problem.
That’s more than L$147 million, Jasper. Getting these people paid back shouldn’t be a problem, right?
Putting this all on PatrcikJ and saying “Its a game read sl TOS money has no value, it is a limited usage you have to use the fictional money” makes it sound like you have no intention of that, though.
Nobody is “picking on you” for a failure. I know what I would have done if I was in your shoes.
You said “This started as a fun game to play, and became a fulltime job, and now the hacklers want to pick on me for this LOL”. When you open a business in SL, it becomes a full-time job. You knew that from the start. When you’re dealing with things that belong to other people, even if it is “limited use fictional money”, you have a responsibility. And now you’re laughing it off because people are “picking on you”… come on.
I have looked “deeper into the real story” and posted the facts, as I saw them. I also stated that somebody might be able to “explain away” certain things. The only thing that you decided to “explain away is the location of the servers that I found by saying “Maybe the ip block is registered in chicago, but routers on the backbone can move ip blocks”. Since tracert is able to tell us the exact location of an IP address (not the block), I don’t think that explaination holds up, either.
You didn’t even try to explain away anything else that was found. Because of that, I feel that you came into SL with the intention of doing what you did. I also feel that , by the way you’ve responded so far, that you have no intention of doing the right thing.
ADDED: Stop pulling this “why me” attitude, saying that people are picking on you. Put yourself in the shoes of the people that trusted you and stop acting like a victim.
September 22nd, 2007 at 6:48 am
Additional information has been added to the main post. Posting in the comments, as well:
ADDED: Now (Sept. 22, 2007) it looks like some of the web sites have been taken down, including the one that looked like the “main hub” (because most of the registrant information for the other domains is using the name “Private Web Communities, Inc”) for the others, called Private Web Communities. It was there just a couple days ago. Why are you pulling your sites down, Frank? Are you quitting that game, too?
September 22nd, 2007 at 8:07 am
Well Jasper….. You did it all badly.
You should have made official announcements of what was going on, and done a proper hand over.
Patrick is claiming that he has no shares of your and that you didnt give him any money.
You also handed over to someone who doesnt have everyones best interests at heart, is only interested in CGI, and simply wants to sell it off and fook all the residents.
Now, failing, and problems are understandable, no one blames you for that, but the fallout from your actions on leaving was created by you and is unacceptable.
You ran off with Springboards pre-ipo cash of 500,000l leaving them and the investors stranded.
Monkey Corp and SL Investors bank have put a package together and have saved Springboard Magazine.
And I intend to make a hostile take over bid for CGI and AVC, to protect the interest of all the share holders and the residents.
You should have come to me Jasper, or atleast someone else that actually gave a damn.
I put alot of trust in you and am bittrerly dissapointed, you could have handled this alot better.
Sincerely
Monkey Canning
CEO Monkey Corp - because its YOUR Second Life
September 22nd, 2007 at 8:54 am
On September 13 our CEO got an IM from Jasper Tizzy, over SL.
At least it was from Jasper Tizzy account, for we don’t know who the person at the keyboard was.
The IM was pretty short:
“Hello - I have sold my business to PatrickJ Ah - please move all of my shares in all of my companies to him - ty”
That happened out of the blue and honestly speaking while the IM appeared to be legitimate at Vstex we’re not used to move large chunks of shares for 3 different companies. Not like that.
So yes, technically Jasper Tizzy asked to transfer his shares out to a different person, but we feel he did it the wrong way.
On September 14 we halted trading for AVC, CGI, KFM in order to have them go through proper transfer procedures, but nor Jasper Tizzy nor anybody from his side has been ever available for that.
We’re not responsible for this, anyway we’ll do everything we can to save what can be saved.
Samantha Goldflake
Communication and Public Relations Dept.
Vstex
September 22nd, 2007 at 10:00 am
I talked a lot with Jasper about business things and what he always said to me was that he was going to stay in SL to become the biggest bankt etc. He was not going to leave suddenly and do those things that happpened also with Ginko. I put all my trust in him and I had the feeling I had a good relationship with him. I talked some times with him on skype etc. I had then 2,200,000 L$ on his bank but now he also took the website down that controls the atm machines so at this moment my balance has been brought down to O L$ !!! So I hope in one way or the other things can still be arranged. Duckman Sands
September 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 am
Yes, I noticed (last night) that one of the other domains that was no longer working and was there at the time I wrote this post was The Linden Bank site. I guess I wasn’t aware if that site also was used for the ATM machines. The-Bank.info (which I’m not sure was “ever” used) is also owned by Jasper/Frank.
September 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Well I think there has to be a transaction history trail of who has or had the money in “The Bank” - and SL should be able to investigate into “the parties” named and find out who transferred Lindens to who, or who still has those Lindens in their account, and I think SL should help us retrieve the money from whoever is responsible that retains the Lindens. Someone has to take responsibility for “The Bank” there is way too many customers and way too much Lindens to just disappear and no one knows where it went.
And I hope that the money from “The Bank” was NOT used to attain all that land that was talked about.
September 25th, 2007 at 10:51 am
“If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it’s a duck”. Jasper is a crook plain and simple. He coerced people into investing in his company and his bank, takes all the funds in The Bank and disappears and disconnects his phone # so he cannot be reached. His actions, or his inactions, speak much louder than his words or his excuses. To take peoples money and then remind them that this is a game, is insulting. We did not give him monopoly money. If your intentions were good Jasper, then give everyone back their money. What is your excuse now?
September 26th, 2007 at 10:42 pm
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October 1st, 2007 at 8:41 am
It has been some days and I haven’t heard anything anymore about the whole situation.
Does someone have some more news ? Does someone has his RL info …
If so, please let me know … I am from Belgium but I will go to the USA if I have to, to beat the crap out of him and put him 2 metres down under. Thanks.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:00 am
To sum it up:
AVC is restarting from scratch and it will be listed over at the Vstex.
CGI is merging with BNT
KFM shareholders were so far awarded a small dividend. Future has to be seen.
That’s it. Anything else, I don’t know.
Samantha Goldflake
Vstex Communication and Public Relations Dept.
November 4th, 2007 at 5:48 am
Well, it looks like a month after this happens, everybody stops talking about it. I suppose you got away with what you got away with, Jasper. I actually know that you visit this site and the SL Reports site, regularly (at least daily). I’m sure that you’re probably floating around using another avatar name, these days, but we’ll probably never find out what it is, unless you screw up and tell somebody.
So much for quitting the game, eh? Well, I guess I can’t say too much about that, since I’ve said that in the past, too. I can say that I didn’t have to recreate myself to hide from my past, though.
I’ll let you know when I’m in town… maybe we can meet up at TJ Cinnamons or Java Haute. I’d expect you to buy me a cup, though.
March 27th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Did anyone else receive an email from Frank Corsi aka Jasper Tizzy? I did, welcoming me to join him on Central Grid. Be wary of Frank Corsi. If you go to http://www.centralgrid.com Corsi is Mr Grid on centralgrid despite lies by Monkey Canning and Mike31 Dawes denying that fact.
Central Grid is just another ploy by Corsi to take you all for your money.
March 27th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Yes, me and our CEO got that mail. Lovely
Samantha Goldflake
Vstex Communication and Public Relations Dept.
May 7th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Xavier you have some nerve trying to say Frank stole anything from you or made you loose any money. You made a deal with Payday Loan for shares in AVC in exchange for Lucia Bay. You proceeded to kill that share price by not understanding how exchanges work by selling off 1 million shares at market price. This caused AVC to tumble to .02 per share. When the dust settled. Frank returned your regions, paid the tier and transfer fees, and you still ended up with your full shares in AVC which it ends up never cost you anything. I myself lost money in AVC’s recent collapse. We gave it a run to pull it back, but with virtually no assets and a share price that could never return to where it originated the attempt was like walking a cliff’s edge.
September 19th, 2008 at 1:02 am
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